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Newsgroups: comp.org.eff.talk
From: [e-mail] (Elliott Mitchell)
Subject: New, Improved Modem Tax!
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
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Keywords:  paranoia, bigotry, nimy, tax-and-spend, tax-him-not-me
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Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1993 16:57:00 GMT
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Here's a little item that came my way via the Fidonet this AM.  At first I
thought it was the usual Modem Tax Scare document, but it looks like a new
one.



Subject: MODEM TAX
To: All
From: Dana Holt
Date: 7/6/93 8:15:44 AM
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FROM:    DAVID JAMES                   Area # 157 (    BBSAdverti    )
TO:      ALL                           MSG # 447, Jul-3-93 9:49pm
SUBJECT: ******* READ THIS!!!!!! *

 * Message originally:
     From: Ravenna Michelle
     To  : All
     Date: 07-01-93
     Area: "CFR_SYSCHAT: Sysop Chat"
 * Forwarded by David James using RemoteAccess 1.11

More interesting info....about taxing our modems...

 * Message originally:
     From: Chuck Haynes
     To  : All
     Date: 06-29-93
     Area: "PAGANSYS"
 * Forwarded by Ravenna Michelle using RemoteAccess 1.11

FMPT 68PID: TPBEdit 7.3
Original in  : AEN_NEWS Echo
Original from: LINDA THOMPSON
Original to  : ALL
Original date: 29 Jun 93,  01:40

 Please Cross-post -- RELEVANT TO EVERY BBS IN THE COUNTRY!

 ************************ AEN ALERT ****************************

          CALL/FAX/COMPUSERVE YOUR CONGRESSMAN TODAY!!!!
 ***************************************************************

 June 25, 1993
     WASHINGTON - The Senate moved toward approving its version of
President's Clinton's budget package early this morning, a move
that is expected to set the stage for a showdown over "hidden
taxes" and spending in a House-Senate conference committee. At
which time, conservatives in the senate say they will fight efforts
to increase taxes and spending which they say is hidden in the
legislation. Singled out was $60 million to be used to finance the
National Data Network that Vice-President Gore is a supporter of.

**************** HERE'S THE PART YOU WANNA CALL ABOUT *************

     The $60 million is to be raised by the imposition of a tax on
the manufacturers of telecommunications hardware and by fees on the
users of such equipment, known as modems. "We used the Pittman-
Robertson act, which finances conservation efforts through a tax on
firearms and ammunition, as a model," said Congressional
spokesperson Bonnie Houck. "The people purchasing and using this type
of equipment are affluent and well off. It's fair, it's not taxation,
this is a progressive measure that asks the users of a resource to
pay for the costs of that resource."
     Clinton Administration spokesperson J. R. Dobbs cautioned
against calling the fees a tax; "Inaccurate buzz words like `modem
fees' and allusions to `modem taxes' produce knee-jerk reactions
that short-circuit constructive inquiry into a vital public
issue.
Telecommunications users from all sectors - educators, small
business, local governments, public service entities. liraries and
recreational users - should take strong interest in how the next
generation of telecommunications networks will be developed and
financed.
     The newly authorized user fees are concealed in an obscure

***************  HERE'S THE REFERENCE NUMBER: *****************

line item (Docket 37-42 of the Data Communications Network
Architecture, or DCNA proposal), "the implications of which NO ONE
at this time fully understands," according to noted MIT
communications policy expert James Parry. These changes would
require telecommunications users to pay "usage sensitive"
carrier charges.
     Roger Carasso is a special assistant to the chief of the
Common Carrier Bureau at the FCC. He said it made sense that
someone using a 14,400 bps modem pay more than someone using a 2400
bps modem. He also commented that it was good policy to have the
fees collected by modem manufacturers and the regional Bell
operating companies (RBOC's). "That way the users don't see the
government involved in the same old `tax and spend'. In this case
the users can take pride in the fact that they are, in fact,
directly financing the new `data superhighway' while, at the same
time, freeing up scarce government resources for truly necessary
social programs such as Medicare, food stamps and education."

--- GEcho 1.00

.. *Stacker?! -> I just use del c:\windoze\*.* POOF! 5 Megs!*
--- via Silver Xpress V3.02

--- EDorQWK 1.00
 * Origin: The NEW WorkBench BBS - 615-256-2211 - (1:116/1000.0)


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| I had my bases covered but the game turned out to be football...
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Newsgroups: comp.org.eff.talk
From: [e-mail] (Sharon Fisher)
Subject: Re: New, Improved Modem Tax!
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Keywords: paranoia, bigotry, nimy, tax-and-spend, tax-him-not-me
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
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Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1993 18:17:40 GMT
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This is a *joke*.  It was debunked in comp.dcom.telecom.

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Newsgroups: comp.org.eff.talk
From: [e-mail] (Elliott Mitchell)
Subject: Re: New, Improved Modem Tax!
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
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Keywords: paranoia, bigotry, nimy, tax-and-spend, tax-him-not-me
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In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Sharon Fisher) writes...
>This is a *joke*.  It was debunked in comp.dcom.telecom.
>
Sorry to be such a pest but I can't find that article on our newsreader.
Any ideas where I can recover it?

tnx.

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| I had my bases covered but the game turned out to be football...
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From: [e-mail] (Christopher Davis)
Newsgroups: comp.org.eff.talk
Subject: Re: New, Improved Modem Tax!
Date: 6 Jul 1993 19:14:22 GMT
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Docket number 37-42, huh?  (1937, yeah right.)

J. R. Dobbs?  (Commonly known as "Bob".)

Roger Carasso works at the FCC?  (See alt.sex.carasso.snuggles for more info.)

Major net.in-joke, and you forgot to include the McElwaine ending:

Unaltered REPRODUCTION and DISSEMINATION (etc)
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Newsgroups: comp.org.eff.talk
From: [e-mail] (Lyle Scheer)
Subject: Re: New, Improved Modem Tax!
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Keywords: paranoia, bigotry, nimy, tax-and-spend, tax-him-not-me
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
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Date: Tue, 6 Jul 1993 20:27:52 GMT
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[e-mail] (Elliott Mitchell) writes:
[snip, snip]
>     Clinton Administration spokesperson J. R. Dobbs cautioned
                                          ^^^"Bob"^^^
Oh my, I see that the church of the subgenious has now infiltrated the white
house.

All hail Eris!

- Lyle

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Newsgroups: comp.org.eff.talk
From: [e-mail] (Bill Stewart [phone])
Subject: Re: New, Improved Modem Tax!
Organization: Electronic Birdwatching Society
Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1993 01:23:27 GMT
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That was a *nice* hoax.  Not only is it highly believable that the
Clintonians would do that sort of thing, since they've done it with
a number of other projects, but it also drops a lot of well-known
names like LINDA THOMPSON (firearms enthusiast lawyer) and James Parry ("Kibo"!),
as well as the previously noted J. R. "Bob" Dobbs and Roger Carasso.
Getting the National Data Network for $60M would be a good trick, too :-)
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#                               Pray for peace;      Bill
# Bill Stewart 1-908-949-0705 [e-mail] AT&T Bell Labs 4M312 Holmdel NJ
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Newsgroups: comp.org.eff.talk
From: [e-mail] (John Henders)
Subject: Re: New, Improved Modem Tax!
References: <[e-mail]> <[e-mail]>
Organization: St Dismas' Home for the Incurably Informed
Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1993 00:50:08 GMT
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[e-mail] (Christopher Davis) writes:

>Docket number 37-42, huh?  (1937, yeah right.)
>J. R. Dobbs?  (Commonly known as "Bob".)
>Roger Carasso works at the FCC?  (See alt.sex.carasso.snuggles for more info.)
>Major net.in-joke, and you forgot to include the McElwaine ending:
>Unaltered REPRODUCTION and DISSEMINATION (etc)

    It's also nice to see James (kibo) Parry got a job with MIT as a
communications expert.

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John Henders       GO/MU/E d* -p+ c+++ l++ t- m* s/++ g+ w+++ -x+
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Newsgroups: comp.org.eff.talk
From: [e-mail] (David Wilson)
Subject: Re: New, Improved Modem Tax!
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Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1993 14:16:02 GMT
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In article <[e-mail]>
[e-mail] (Elliott Mitchell) writes:
 "We used the Pittman-
> Robertson act, which finances conservation efforts through a tax on
> firearms and ammunition, as a model," said Congressional
> spokesperson Bonnie Houck.


There is no such thing as a "Congressional spokesperson." Get a life.
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Newsgroups: comp.org.eff.talk
From: [e-mail] (Ken Jongsma)
Subject: Re: New, Improved Modem Tax!
Message-ID: <[e-mail]>
Keywords: paranoia, bigotry, nimy, tax-and-spend, tax-him-not-me
Reply-To: [e-mail]
Organization: Smiths Industries
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Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 7 Jul 1993 16:49:32 GMT
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Please don't post trash like this without verifying it first.

It's wrong.

It's not true.

It's a joke.

You were taken in by it.

--
Ken Jongsma
Smiths Industries                                [e-mail]
Grand Rapids, Michigan                      [e-mail]
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